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John Schirf

Male 1863 - 1949  (85 years)

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  • Name John Schirf  [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8] 
    Birth 14 Aug 1863  Martinsburg, Blair, Pennsylvania Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8] 
    Gender Male 
    FSID M7GR-XSQ 
    Residence 1870  Carrolltown, Cambria, Pennsylvania Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8] 
    Residence 1880  Barr, Cambria, Pennsylvania Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7] 
    Residence 1900  Barr, Cambria, Pennsylvania Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7] 
    Residence 1910  Barr, Cambria, Pennsylvania Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7] 
    Residence 1920  Barr, Cambria, Pennsylvania Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7] 
    Residence 1930  Barr, Cambria, Pennsylvania Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7] 
    Death 14 Jan 1949  [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7] 
    Person ID I1177  Perchinske Strohmeyer Tree
    Last Modified 5 Aug 2025 

    Father Jacob Schirf, Sr,   b. 2 Jul 1831, Baden-Württemberg, Germany Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 1 Feb 1915, Nicktown, Cambria, Pennsylvania Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 83 years) 
    Relationship natural 
    Mother Gertrude Heiler,   b. 16 Mar 1826, Germany Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 25 Apr 1905, Nicktown, Cambria, Pennsylvania Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 79 years) 
    Relationship natural 
    Marriage 1854  Pittsburgh, Allegheny, Pennsylvania Find all individuals with events at this location  [9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17] 
    • The marriage records of Jacob and Gertrude have yet to be found, and may never be found. We know that they came over to the U.S. in 1854. The reason for this is that they were definitely not married where so many people list them as being married. I have a paper from St. Philomenas that states there is no record of their marriage at that church. There is a baptismal record. I plan on posting both as soon as I scan the pile of things I have to scan. This should help everyone with sourcing some.
      We know they lived in Sharpsburg, and since they were German they probably attended St. Mary's which was dedicated in June of 1854, but had had services held in the basement since 1852. The inability to find records of a marriage is probably the result of a fire that destroyed St. Mary's church and it's records. In 1866, several months later the cornerstone for a new church was laid, and the church was rebuilt.

      On deducing a date this is how I came upon a timeframe.
      In the Federal Census of 1900 taken 5 June 1900 Jacob and Gertrude list 45 years as being the length of their marriage . That puts the marriage date between 6 June 1854 and 5 June 1855. We can probably assume they were married prior to October 1854 because of the date of the baptism of their daughter Catherine. The 1900 census goes on to state that they have been in the US 46 years and both migrated in 1854, yet have been married 45 years. This shows that the wedding would have probably occurred in the U.S.
      Taking all of this into account the wedding range would be between June and October of 1854. In Sharpsburg because that was where they were living at the time, and being german one can assume they went to the Catholic Church locally that was primarily German, St. Mary's, it was a split off of St. Josephs. The Church also often used priest s from St. Philomena's in Pittsburgh where their daughter was later baptized, and where there is no marriage record for them.
      St. Mary's burned down in 1866, and all records were lost in the fire. Thus there is little chance of finding a record of the marriage.

      (This information from schirf.net)
    • St.Philomena,
    Age at Marriage He : ~ 22 years and 5 months - She : ~ 27 years and 9 months. 
    Family ID F321  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Catharine Mary Nissel 
    Marriage 1897  Cambria, Pennsylvania, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  [18] 
    Age at Marriage He : ~ 33 years and 4 months - She : ??. 
    Family ID F1186  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 5 Aug 2025 

  • Event Map
    Link to Google MapsBirth - 14 Aug 1863 - Martinsburg, Blair, Pennsylvania Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - Residence Post Office: Munster - 1870 - Carrolltown, Cambria, Pennsylvania Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - 1880 - Barr, Cambria, Pennsylvania Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsMarriage - 1897 - Cambria, Pennsylvania, USA Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - 1900 - Barr, Cambria, Pennsylvania Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - 1910 - Barr, Cambria, Pennsylvania Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - 1920 - Barr, Cambria, Pennsylvania Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - 1930 - Barr, Cambria, Pennsylvania Link to Google Earth
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  • Sources 
    1. [S152] FamilySearch.org, FamilySearch Family Tree, "United States Census, 1930," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XH8F-1XB : accessed 3 September 2020), John Schirf, Barr, Cambria, Pennsylvania, United States; citing enumeration district (ED) ED 8, sheet 6A.
      John Schirf, "United States Census, 1930"
      https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XH8F-1XB

    2. [S152] FamilySearch.org, FamilySearch Family Tree, "United States Census, 1870", database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MZL1-KXM : 19 March 2020), John Shirf in entry for Jacob Shirf, 1870.
      John Shirf in household of Jacob Shirf, "United States Census, 1870"
      https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MZL1-KXM

    3. [S152] FamilySearch.org, FamilySearch Family Tree, "United States Census, 1910," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MGHL-TP8 : accessed 3 September 2020), John Schirf, Barr, Cambria, Pennsylvania, United States; citing enumeration district (ED) ED 96, sheet 2.
      John Schirf, "United States Census, 1910"
      https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MGHL-TP8

    4. [S152] FamilySearch.org, FamilySearch Family Tree, "United States Census, 1900," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M394-5BR : accessed 3 September 2020), John Schirf, Barr Township Spangle borough, Cambria, Pennsylvania, United States; citing enumeration dis.
      John Schirf, "United States Census, 1900"
      https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M394-5BR

    5. [S152] FamilySearch.org, FamilySearch Family Tree, "United States Census, 1920," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MNMH-JGP : accessed 3 September 2020), John Schirf, Barr, Cambria, Pennsylvania, United States; citing ED 136, sheet 15B, line 82, family 465,.
      John Schirf, "United States Census, 1920"
      https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MNMH-JGP

    6. [S152] FamilySearch.org, FamilySearch Family Tree, "United States Census, 1880," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MWXF-3HW : 15 July 2017), John Schirf in household of Jacob Schirf, Barr, Cambria, Pennsylvania, United States; citing enumeration district ED.
      John Schirf in household of Jacob Schirf, "United States Census, 1880"
      https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MWXF-3HW

    7. [S152] FamilySearch.org, FamilySearch Family Tree, "Pennsylvania, County Marriages, 1885-1950," database with images, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VF3T-9D6 : 5 August 2020), John Schirf and Catharine Mary Nissel, 19 Oct 1897; citing Marriage, Cambria, Pennsylvania, Unite.
      John Schirf, "Pennsylvania, County Marriages, 1885-1950"
      https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VF3T-9D6

    8. [S191] Ancestry.com, 1870 United States Federal Census, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2009;), Year: 1870; Census Place: Carroll, Cambria, Pennsylvania; Roll: M593_1317; Page: 89A; Family History Library Film: 552816.
      1870 United States Federal Census      		 1870 United States Federal Census


    9. [S152] FamilySearch.org, FamilySearch Family Tree, "United States Census, 1900," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M39H-7K3 : accessed 3 September 2020), Jacob Schirf, Barr Township Spangle borough, Cambria, Pennsylvania, United States; citing enumeration di.
      Jacob Schirf, "United States Census, 1900"
      https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M39H-7K3

    10. [S152] FamilySearch.org, FamilySearch Family Tree.
      Legacy NFS Source: Jacob Schirf - Government record: Death record or certificate: death: 1 February 1915; Nicktown, Cambria, Pennsylvania, United States

    11. [S152] FamilySearch.org, FamilySearch Family Tree, "United States Census, 1880," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MWXF-3H3 : 15 July 2017), Jacob Schirf, Barr, Cambria, Pennsylvania, United States; citing enumeration district ED 207, sheet 451B, NARA microf.
      Jacob Schirf, "United States Census, 1880"
      https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MWXF-3H3

    12. [S152] FamilySearch.org, FamilySearch Family Tree, "Pennsylvania, County Marriages, 1885-1950," database with images, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VFSR-7XB : 5 August 2020), Jacob Schirf in entry for Conrad Schirf and Katharine Wassam, 20 Nov 1913; citing Marriage, Nickt.
      Jacob Schirf in entry for Conrad Schirf and Katharine Wassam, "Pennsylvania, County Marriages, 1885-1950"
      https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VFSR-7XB

    13. [S152] FamilySearch.org, FamilySearch Family Tree, "Pennsylvania, County Marriages, 1885-1950," database with images, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KH6R-73K : 5 August 2020), Jacob Schirf in entry for Giles Schirf and Mary Elizabeth Kirsch, 15 Sep 1908; citing Marriage, C.
      Jacob Schirf in entry for Giles Schirf and Mary Elizabeth Kirsch, "Pennsylvania, County Marriages, 1885-1950"
      https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KH6R-73K

    14. [S152] FamilySearch.org, FamilySearch Family Tree, "United States Census, 1870", database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MZL1-K65 : 19 March 2020), Jacob Shirf, 1870.
      Jacob Shirf, "United States Census, 1870"
      https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MZL1-K65

    15. [S152] FamilySearch.org, FamilySearch Family Tree, "Family Tree," database, FamilySearch (http://familysearch.org : modified 30 April 2020, 22:06), entry for Jacob Schirf Sr(PID https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/4:1:M7GR-XML); contributed by various users. PersonID M7GR-XML.
      Jacob Schirf Sr
      https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/4:1:M7GR-XML

    16. [S152] FamilySearch.org, FamilySearch Family Tree, "Find A Grave Index," database, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QV29-GBL5 : 3 June 2020), Jacob Schirf, ; Burial, , ; citing record ID , Find a Grave, http://www.findagrave.com.
      Jacob Schirf, "Find A Grave Index"
      https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QV29-GBL5

    17. [S152] FamilySearch.org, FamilySearch Family Tree, "Pennsylvania, County Marriages, 1885-1950," database with images, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VF3T-9DX : 5 August 2020), Jacob Schirf in entry for John Schirf and Catharine Mary Nissel, 19 Oct 1897; citing Marriage, Ca.
      Jacob Schirf in entry for John Schirf and Catharine Mary Nissel, "Pennsylvania, County Marriages, 1885-1950"
      https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VF3T-9DX

    18. [S579] Pennsylvania, USGenWeb Archives.
      http://files.usgwarchives.net/pa/cambria/vitals/marriages/marabs/mar-s-names-1.txt


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