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Sabina A Schirf

Sabina A Schirf

Female 1859 - 1945  (85 years)

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  • Name Sabina A Schirf  [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9] 
    Birth 7 Jul 1859  Sharpsburg, Allegheny, Pennsylvania, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9] 
    Gender Female 
    FSID KHDY-9T9  [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7] 
    Residence 1870  Carrolltown, Cambria, Pennsylvania Find all individuals with events at this location  [8] 
    Residence 1880  Barr, Cambria, Pennsylvania Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7] 
    Residence 1900  Susquehanna, Cambria, Pennsylvania Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7] 
    Residence 1920  Sublimity, Marion, Oregon Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7] 
    Residence 1930  Sublimity, Marion, Oregon Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7] 
    Residence 1935  Sublimity, Marion, Oregon Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7] 
    Residence 1940  Sublimity, Marion, Oregon Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7] 
    Death 3 Jul 1945  Sublimity, Marion, Oregon, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 9] 
    Burial Sublimity, Marion, Oregon, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 9] 
    Media Item(1).jpg    		 Media Item(1).jpg
    Person ID I1040  Perchinske Strohmeyer Tree
    Last Modified 5 Aug 2025 

    Father Jacob Schirf, Sr,   b. 2 Jul 1831, Baden-Württemberg, Germany Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 1 Feb 1915, Nicktown, Cambria, Pennsylvania Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 83 years) 
    Relationship natural 
    Mother Gertrude Heiler,   b. 16 Mar 1826, Germany Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 25 Apr 1905, Nicktown, Cambria, Pennsylvania Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 79 years) 
    Relationship natural 
    Marriage 1854  Pittsburgh, Allegheny, Pennsylvania Find all individuals with events at this location  [10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18] 
    • The marriage records of Jacob and Gertrude have yet to be found, and may never be found. We know that they came over to the U.S. in 1854. The reason for this is that they were definitely not married where so many people list them as being married. I have a paper from St. Philomenas that states there is no record of their marriage at that church. There is a baptismal record. I plan on posting both as soon as I scan the pile of things I have to scan. This should help everyone with sourcing some.
      We know they lived in Sharpsburg, and since they were German they probably attended St. Mary's which was dedicated in June of 1854, but had had services held in the basement since 1852. The inability to find records of a marriage is probably the result of a fire that destroyed St. Mary's church and it's records. In 1866, several months later the cornerstone for a new church was laid, and the church was rebuilt.

      On deducing a date this is how I came upon a timeframe.
      In the Federal Census of 1900 taken 5 June 1900 Jacob and Gertrude list 45 years as being the length of their marriage . That puts the marriage date between 6 June 1854 and 5 June 1855. We can probably assume they were married prior to October 1854 because of the date of the baptism of their daughter Catherine. The 1900 census goes on to state that they have been in the US 46 years and both migrated in 1854, yet have been married 45 years. This shows that the wedding would have probably occurred in the U.S.
      Taking all of this into account the wedding range would be between June and October of 1854. In Sharpsburg because that was where they were living at the time, and being german one can assume they went to the Catholic Church locally that was primarily German, St. Mary's, it was a split off of St. Josephs. The Church also often used priest s from St. Philomena's in Pittsburgh where their daughter was later baptized, and where there is no marriage record for them.
      St. Mary's burned down in 1866, and all records were lost in the fire. Thus there is little chance of finding a record of the marriage.

      (This information from schirf.net)
    • St.Philomena,
    Age at Marriage He : ~ 22 years and 5 months - She : ~ 27 years and 9 months. 
    Family ID F321  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Adam L Lulay,   b. 1857, Butler, Butler County, Pennsylvania, United States of America Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 4 Dec 1931, Sublimity, Marion County, Oregon, United States of America Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 74 years) 
    Children 
     1. Rose Philomena Breitenstein,   b. 15 Mar 1887, Nicktown, Cambria County, Pennsylvania, United States of America Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 10 Feb 1965, Sublimity, Marion County, Oregon, United States of America Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 77 years)  [Father: natural]  [Mother: natural]
     2. Joseph Adam Lulay,   b. 9 Feb 1889, Pennsylvania, United States of America Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 3 Apr 1972, Marion County, Oregon, United States of America Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 83 years)  [Father: natural]  [Mother: natural]
     3. Nicholas Rupert Lulay,   b. 1 Jan 1891, Nicktown, Cambria County, Pennsylvania, United States of America Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 7 Dec 1954, Sublimity, Marion County, Oregon, United States of America Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 63 years)  [Father: natural]  [Mother: natural]
    Family ID F1268  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 5 Aug 2025 

  • Event Map
    Link to Google MapsBirth - 7 Jul 1859 - Sharpsburg, Allegheny, Pennsylvania, USA Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - Residence Post Office: Munster - 1870 - Carrolltown, Cambria, Pennsylvania Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - 1880 - Barr, Cambria, Pennsylvania Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - ED 101 - 1900 - Susquehanna, Cambria, Pennsylvania Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - 1920 - Sublimity, Marion, Oregon Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - 1930 - Sublimity, Marion, Oregon Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - 1935 - Sublimity, Marion, Oregon Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - 1940 - Sublimity, Marion, Oregon Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsDeath - 3 Jul 1945 - Sublimity, Marion, Oregon, USA Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsBurial - - Sublimity, Marion, Oregon, USA Link to Google Earth
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  • Photos At least one living or private individual is linked to this item - Details withheld.
    Lyons Lulay family 014(1)    		Lyons Lulay family 014(1)
    Death Certificate of Sabina Ann Lulay    		Death Certificate of Sabina Ann Lulay

    Histories
    Letter from great granddaughter of Sabina Schirf    		Letter from great granddaughter of Sabina Schirf

  • Notes 
    • Born 7 Jul 1859, Pennsylvania. Marr Adam LULAY 21 May 1882. Excerpts from a letter from Bernadette Lulay, Great Gran daughter of Sabina:"They were married May 21, 1882 probably in Nicktown. The y came to Sublimity Oregon in about 1906-1907. This was a t the prompting of their 2 daughters, Maggie (Frank) and Rose (Breitenstein) who were married and had moved to Sublim ty already. Adam was a coal miner in PA, for 6 or 7 days he never saw the sun. Going down before dawn and going hom e after dark. Their first Oregon home was a rented farm nea r Stayton. My randfather, Aloyius, lived with his sister Maggie so he could attend school in town.
      Later when Al was married they lived in a logging camp. This was Lulay Bros. Lumber Co. Adam and Sabina lived in town but Adam was a regular fixture in the camp.
      My dad said he was a very gentle and good-natured man. Sabina was a teaser and very jovial. She was strict, but very m uch fun to be around. Adam died of heart failure, he had a heart attack Christmas Eve. My dad remembers being there. It was even harder years later for my dad when his dad A l was killed in a car wreck Christmas Eve.
      My dad was in the Service when his grandma Sabina died. Very hard on him as he was close to her. They are both buried in Sublimity, St. Boniface Catholic Church.". Died 2 Jul 1945, Sublimity, Marion, Oregon.

      (Information from schirf.net)

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      Legacy NFS Source: Sabina Schirf - Individual or family possessions: birth-name: Sabina Schirf

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      1870 United States Federal Census      		 1870 United States Federal Census


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